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China is already in a win-win situation in any case. It already controls Tibet. [Laughs.] But what do you mean by win or lose? This is complicated. We're not suggesting separation, [but] that Tibet becomes more prosperous within China.
HOW MUCH HAS EXILE COST YOU PERSONALLY?
Of course, I lost my own country, and for more than 45 years I have been stateless. But I think I've had a very good opportunity to learn new things, including other traditions.
HOW DO YOU SEE THE FUTURE?
If you look at the Tibet situation locally, then it's hopeless. But from a wider perspective, it's hopeful. [These are] my last words on this. Not bad.