Talk of Change: An Interview with Pieter Willem Botha

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On the prospects for a settlement on Namibia. We do not stand in the way of independence for [Namibia]. As a matter of fact, we are in a hurry because that territory has been a tremendous financial burden to us. The question is who is going to fill the vacuum when we leave. We are not going to allow Communist forces, at the point of a gun, to subject the people of Namibia. But we won't stand in the way of independence, and we hope that the Western countries will share with us the burden of developing it.

On whether "separate development" must remain the keystone of the South African system. Separate development is applied in Europe between peoples while they unite in the European Community. It is carried out in the Americas. It is the order of the day in the rest of Africa. If we carry it out here, separate development means nothing other than that peoples have traditions, history and ideals to which they must remain true. And they must not use those traditions, histories and ideals to belittle or destroy the rights of others.

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