Interview with Amien Rais

Amien Rais seems to be enjoying President Abdurrahman Wahid's torments. If the President is impeached, Rais, who heads the People's Consultative Assembly, would preside over the hearings that could remove him from office. The University of Chicago graduate spoke about Indonesia's troubles with Time East Asia correspondent Tim McGirk and reporter Jason Tedjasukmana. Excerpts:

TIME: What should Wahid do now?
Rais: He should resign. The people no longer trust him. His authority is gone. We are trying hard to think of a way to force him to resign.

TIME: What if the President were...