TIME: I thought I'd talk to you a little bit about the whole degree to which this is really a test of leadership. The fact is that no President has been able to pull off anything on this order of magnitude in 44 years [since Congress passed Medicare and Medicaid].
President Obama:
Well, as you point out, the last time we did something of this magnitude was 1965. And the circumstances in some cases were similar in some cases were profoundly different. Obviously LBJ had just won a landslide re-election and had huge majorities in the Senate and the House. We...
Obama: 'This Has Been the Most Difficult Test for Me.'
TIME national political correspondent Karen Tumulty, who has been closely covering the health-care debate, sat down with President Barack Obama in the Oval Office to discuss the difficult task of piecing together health-care legislation.
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